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Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 9:22 PM EST
This is not meant to be intended to fuel any hate. I love all you all. But, marriage in itself is defined already, not by man. I know many don't believe in God, or care, but....i do and I as a Christian feel my own rights attacked when the very definition of something I hold sacred is redifined in a way that is not holy to God (no offense). Either way, know that God loves all of you (haters, lovers, gay or straight)...so talk to Him sometime if you don't already :)
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Posted Anonymously |
1. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 10:01 PM EST
We are only fighthing for civil marriages under the law. We aren't fighting to control the way you, your church, or your God view marriage. The church and the state are two, different institutions. Your rights aren't being attacked because you are not forced to accept or acknowledge anything you don't want to. You can refuse to accept that another man is my husband, but the state shouldn't be able to.
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2. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 10:55 PM EST
While I admire your faith, I have to respectfully disagree with your outlook. May I suggest that you read the latest Newsweek cover story? It gives a good explanation of how there is no really solid biblical definition of marriage (*cough* Lot, Abraham, Jacob, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, etc *cough*)--but there is certainly a great deal said (by Christ and otherwise) about the value and power of love.
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3. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:00 PM EST
LOL! And what God (?) would that be? There is no God. Religion is but a myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds. If you believe anything else then you are a complete fool.2 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:13 PM EST
Dear Atheist,I don't care what you believe in: arrogance does not make a good argument. 8 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:17 PM EST
sure... then change the Laws of the country so they don't use the term "marraige' so every couple will have equal rights... government, law & religion should all be non-related... equal rights within the law it what this is about, not religion
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6. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:24 PM EST
I myself do not believe Christianity is a reason to oppose gay marriage. How many people who were married and said vows in a church are now divorced? Straight Christians make a mockery of the institution of marriage every day. I myself am straight and will be married to my husband until death parts us. He is the love of my life. I feel every one who takes those vows seriously should be able to be married no matter their sexual orientation.
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7. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God
Dec 9 2008, 11:25 PM EST
I believe in the separation of church and state, therefore, my suggestion has been to provide civil unions to consenting adult couples, regardless of sex or gender. If a couple wants religious recognition of their union, then they should seek a marriage from their respective house of worship. Ultimately, this would result in greater religious freedom and distinction, allowing Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, or other beliefs to define marriage on their own terms, ultimately protecting their religious institutions, while at the same time preserving our rights as American citizens to self-expression and equal protection under the law.
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8. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:29 PM EST
As stated in previous replies, this has nothing to do with God. My heart is full of love for my fellow 'man'. I treat all as I would like to be treated. I live an honest and rightous life, just as described within the ten commandments. From first glance, I would appear just as any other Christian, which I actually am (with the exception that I AM GAY). Should I not be allowed to have the sames rights as any other 'man' who lives in this country?
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9. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 9 2008, 11:39 PM EST
"This is not meant to be intended to fuel any hate. I love all you all. But, marriage in itself is defined already, not by man. I know many don't believe in God, or care, but....i do and I as a Christian feel my own rights attacked when the very definition of something I hold sacred is redifined in a way that is not holy to God (no offense). Either way, know that God loves all of you (haters, lovers, gay or straight)...so talk to Him sometime if you don't already :) "The second, that you say that it is attacking your rights when you deny someone else's rights, your argument becomes hypocritical. The days where you can deny someone else a lifestyle because it is against your beliefs is over. Religion is something I respect, yet it is not something that should be used to deny someone else happiness. 6 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God
Dec 9 2008, 11:45 PM EST
I understand what you're saying, but the U.S. is for everyone, not just Christians, or even just religious people. You are free to believe and practice as you wish, the same as anyone here, but when it comes to the basic earthly laws of the land that govern us all, it makes no sense to say "you can't do this, but he can, because it's always been this way." What about churches (Christian ones at that) that accept gay marriage the same as straight marriage? Is this not an attack on their rights in an even greater capacity?I don't think anyone should have to "accept" gay marriage. I don't think anyone sane is asking that, though. However, I do believe the law should, and that people should respect the law. 7 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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11. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God
Dec 10 2008, 12:31 AM EST
The marriage that is recognized and defined by whatever church you choose to belong to is completely different then the legal bond of marriage entered into and sanctioned by the state. That is the "separation of church and state" that is so frequently quoted. Whatever beliefs are held by members of religious organizations are perfectly fine for them but should not be imposed upon the rest of us. Churches don't have to take part in the ceremonies and anyone who has a moral objection should probably not attend one. That's your right as a citizen of the US. My God is loving and caring and does not judge, condemn or attack. That brings me peace in my life and I think everyone should have peace in their own personal life by any means they see fit.I respect all people and their individual rights and beliefs whether I agree with them or not. Our country was built on diversity and each group has had to fight against the majority to earn their rights and their place as equals in society. This is history repeating itself and, as history has shown us, common sense and decency will prevail. No, I'm not gay but I'm passionate about equality and I don't think that my marriage to my husband will be any less meaningful if the institution were open to everyone. Lots of things bother me, (like David Caruso on CSI: Miami, he's just annoying and I can't stand to look at him) so I choose not to watch. Reality TV is another thing that I can't stand but nobody ties me to my couch and makes me watch! Live and let live -- nobody said you had to have a front seat to someone's private life. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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12. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 12:42 AM EST
Well, I think that was nice of you to say that in that way but you and that religion of yours is wrong, there is nothing that you can say or do that will get me to think otherwise. Getting married is a human fundamental right that all people should have not fight for.
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13. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 12:42 AM EST
"This is not meant to be intended to fuel any hate. I love all you all. But, marriage in itself is defined already, not by man. I know many don't believe in God, or care, but....i do and I as a Christian feel my own rights attacked when the very definition of something I hold sacred is redifined in a way that is not holy to God (no offense). Either way, know that God loves all of you (haters, lovers, gay or straight)...so talk to Him sometime if you don't already :) "Well, I think that was nice of you to say that in that way but you and that religion of yours is wrong, there is nothing that you can say or do that will get me to think otherwise. Getting married is a human fundamental right that all people should have not fight for. 2 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 5:01 PM EST
Just to be clear on the whole "marriage as God intended it". No where in the Bible is the word marriage mentioned. Marriage was invented BY MAN. It was a means to protect inheritance and property should someone die. It was to provide a legal bond with the children these two people would produce. I strongly believe in God and I know history as well. Marriage came from man, not God. All we are asking for is the right to protect our property and show our love for someone else, just as straight people have always been able to do.
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15. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 6:27 PM EST
So-called Christians may do what they please, but the GOVERNMENT is NOT ALLOWED define anything ACCORDING TO A RELIGION (U.S. Constitution, Amendment 1) nor to DISCRIMINATE (U.S. Constitution, Amendment 14)
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truji999 |
16. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 7:08 PM EST
Not to worry. We DO NOT seek to be married in the church. I knowyou dont mean to offend but as you said, some of us do not believe in god and therefore, as a society, we have come up with this handy little thing called CIVIL MARRIAGE that does not take into account the teaching of the miserable church and your evil and bigoted GOD. Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone who believes in this mythical creature.
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truji999 |
17. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 7:22 PM EST
I hope that you keep in mind that something might happen and that although it is a great goal to strive towards everlasting love, you are not always in control of this. Do you really think all those couple that divorce were planning on doing so when they married? The fact is that civil marriage should seek to protect the social present and future of the family unit it is establishing until divorce happens, if it does. Gays should have the right to jump into this uncertainty also.
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18. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God
Dec 10 2008, 7:22 PM EST
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19. RE: Are Christians allowed to protect marriage as it is defined by God?
Dec 10 2008, 7:24 PM EST
I talked to god the other day and he told me that we are retarded and that he has much bigger fish to fry than gays.
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